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Thursday, August 5, 2010

Trapped

Your blog response should address both parts of this post.

1. In both texts, the main character(s) feel trapped in many different ways; Marjane and the inmates experience confinement physically, emotionally, and culturally. Depending on which text you are reading, describe at least two examples/instances of the main character(s) being or feeling trapped. Be sure to point to specific examples from the text in your descriptions to strengthen your findings.

2. Describe a personal experience/situation in which you felt physically, emotionally, and/or culturally trapped. What happened and how did you respond to the situation? What lessons have you learned from the situtation? What insider information did you acquire through this situation?

21 comments:

  1. The boys in the juvenile center feel physically trapped often, the only time they're "free" is when they're in writing class or working out. If there's a conflict they get put on lockdown where they're stuck in their rooms for a period of time. Being locked up alone is a reason to feel mentally trapped. In the writings of the characters you can sense regret and a wanting for change but being in prison and a sense of loneliness it's too late to realize what's right and wrong. In Patrick's essay on page 95 he re-lives the day he joined a gang and how it lead to his imprisonment.

    When I was in highschool I felt physically and mentally trapped, the constant belive that I didn't need to be there was heavy on my mind. I did enough to graduate, barely but I realized what's important through that experience.

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  2. 1. The main characters in my story felt trapped because they are locked up and can't get out to make a change. They feel that they have no chance in making their lives right so they're trapped in their life of crime. Another example is that they are trapped in their past and what they had done before they got locked up. They wish that they can go back but they can't. They have to deal with it.

    2.I've been trapped in a relationship before. When you love someone then you find it hard to let that person go. I was dating this girl who I loved and she was cheating. I knew she was but I tried not to think about it. I just thought about the good times that we had. That's why it was hard for me to break up with her. Then I finally thought about meeting someone that would treat me good and I wasn't going to meet that person while I was with this girl. So I finally broke up with her. I've learned that no matter how bad the situation is, there is always a way out and something better is waiting for you. It might appear hard at first, but you will soon develop the strength needed to overcome it.

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  4. Marjane is being trapped because she is out of her comfort zone. Shes aroung people she barely knows, she was somewhere to where she didnt speak their language, and she tries to fit i into certain groups to feel as if she is apart of something. She had a boyfriend who she was really into, and comes to find out he was gay and finding himself, and she was the one that made him open up. I felt trapped at a time where everybody was finding out about me and my girlfriend. I feel trapped all the time, i feel as if i cant talk to anyone, it always seems like its too much to tell so i decide to keep it to myself, rather than tell someone who probably doesnt care. I belieive it was a waste of time to tell anyone your problems anyways because what where they going to do about it? they dont have magic, they cant make it better with their words, but hey! thats just me personally.The lessons that i have learned from the situation was to find my own way to cope with things like going to my room and laying in the dark, or going to the track and run, or even listen to powerful music that made sense and that had a lot to do with my issues. On my ipod i have sections, the happy music, the sad music, and the mad music.

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  5. MARK FELT TRAPPED BECAUSE HE REALLY DID NOT WANT TO BE IN THE SITUATION OF BEING INVOLVED WITH JUVENILE, BECAUSE OF THEIR BACKGROUNDS AND HIS PAST EXPERIENCES. IN THE BOOK HE EXPLAIN REASONS TO NOT GO TO THE JUVENILE AND REASONS TO GO, SO HE WENT AND HE LOVE IT.

    ONE SITUATION WHERE I FELT TRAPPED IS ME TO THIS DAY NOT BEING ABLE TO EXPRESS HOW I FEEL AROUND MY MOTHER WITH OUT ME GETTING HOLLERED AT. WHEN I TRY I AM OFTEN CALLED DISRESPECTFUL WHEN I KNOW IT ISNT THE CASE. IT TRAPS ME EMOTIONALLY BECAUSE THEIRS SO MUCH THAT I ALWAYS WANT TO RELEASE TO HER, BUT SHE NEVER LETS ME EXPLAIN MYSELF, SO SHE ALWAYS ASSUME THINGS. AT TIMES I WANT TO CRY AT TIMES I JUST FEEL AS IF I WANT TO PUNCH A WALL, BUT THROUGH IT ALL I AM LEARNING TO DEAL WITH IT BY WRITING MY FEELINGS DOWN OR EXPRESSING IT THROUGH THE TYPES OF MUSIC I LISTEN TO. MY LESSONS OF THE SITUATION IS THAT THE ONLY WAY I AM ABLE TO EXPLAIN MYSELF AND PEOPLE HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF ME IS THROUGH WRITING BECAUSE PEOPLE INCLUDING MY MOTHER FAIL TO LISTEN.

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  7. In True Note books, after the boys are put on lockdown, mark asks them why, and their response is, in the adult pen, the gangs were into it, and it was mandatory they carried it out in the juvenile facility because if they didn't they would be severly punished when they reached the adult pen. they felt very trapped because they had no other choice but to csrry out this way, not because they wanted to, but because they were in a gang and thats what was forced upon them. So, they were trapped in this situation.

    I was mentally trapped in a situatin with my son's father, after I didn't want to be with him, physically, in my mind he made me feel wrong, wrong because I felt like we didn't have to have an one on one relationship to see after our son,and my son's here to stay so I felt like so was he. I eventually began to be unhappy, and I asked myself, how could I Be happy for my baby? If I wasn't happy for me? And, it was no doubt in my mind that this was something that just wasn't goonna happen cause it wasn't what i wanted.I learned that you have to do what makes you feel best,not what someone else wants! I acquired that it is very important to be happy, in order to do certain things in life, becaus it helps you make the right choice, and later on you won't regret them.

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  8. Marjanes enviroment effected her in many ways. Marjane was forced to where stuff that she didnt want to wear which you could say trapped her identity. When you can wear what you want to wear you may find it hard to express yourself. Marjane felt culturally trapped when she was confused and didnt really know what to believe in. Personally, times when I felt trapped were when i was much younger and I would mess up in school or do something stupid and I would be on punishment. Which means I couldnt leave the house and sometimes my room. I used to sit there in my room devastated and sad that my freedom was tooken away. Now that im older i know that there are consequences for all of your actions. But one thing i found out is that punishment is not the end of the world. It may seem like something extremely terrible but you will get over it eventually.

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  9. In my book True Notebooks the inmates release themsleves through there journals.each inmate has there own struggle that came with being lock up,Francisco speaks on how he feels inside he has two side an angel and devil. he explains that the devil is basically trying to keep him down and the angel side knows as long as god is with him hes going to be ok. he sees him self as a devil and angel as one.because he has done wrong he does belive right can preval in the most part,but he feels trapped and knows that his two sides go hand in hand

    ive never really felt really trapped i try to stay open minded and free spirited but there have been moments where i felt people were trying to keep me down, when i had this art project in school many teachers felt that how i expressed myself wasnt right.

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  10. In life there are times where you can feel trapped. Feeling trapped can be physically,emotinonally,or even culturally. In "True Notebooks" the inmates describe the feeling of being trapped emotionally. In the beginning we read about a young man named Ruben who writes about clouds. He states how he took for granted the time he had to never really pay attention to the clouds and they uniqueness. He symbolizing the feeling with a boy gazing at a puppy in the pet store window from a distance with hope of one day getting it but never does. I was trapped emotionally when i went through a process to become an student ambassador. Through this process I had to learn myself I had to dig deep within to figure what makes me the person who I am today. I became trapped emotionally cause of the fear and hate that moved inside where love and joy should have been. I had to either let go of the emotional baggage that i carried in order to move on or I was gone be stuck mad and hurt for the rest of my life. I decided to let it go day by day i shared events in my life and emotions flowed through me making me the person I am today. I learned that you have to let go of the past in order to really have a future. Learn from you past, teach in your present,and plan for you future.

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  11. Marjane feels traped because she is tapped. her and the rest of her country are not in the best positions now. She feels that everyone should not have to be treated wrong by the govrn.
    I felt culturally trapped when 9-11 accured.I felt like the government and the presidet knew that this would happen but didnt prepare by warning people and telling civilains not to be downtown today, that made me feel like they didnt care which had me emotionally and physiaclly trapped as well.

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  12. How is the characters feel trapped? well i remember when Kevin felt like there was no hope and noone to go too. He said when his parents died and when he got locked up, he felt so alone. Of course, he remembered the time he had spent a day with his teacher but that was only a day to forget all the bad times. He seem to believe that there isn't a God. He believe God is just trying to make everyone life is miserble.(if that's how you spell it.) He doesn't seem to believe anything anymore, and feels alone in the world. That was one of the parts i read in the book were a inmate felt trapped.

    The time i had felt trapped emotionally was when my parents had spilt when i was around 6 years old. When i was that age, i never really understood what was going on until this day. I felt like i couldn't go anywhere. I didn't want to choose between them. The pain that my mother felt had hurt me as well. It had changed me when i was growing up. Till this day i would never trust a man fully until he actually proves it. B/c it's hard to talk to any boy without seeing what my father done. It hurts that i can't trust any boy but hopefully one day i can. Then, it happened again when i was 16. We found my father cheating on my mom. He wouldn't admit it but the situation had gotten really bad. I remember it was a cold winter day and my mom couldn't stay being near him. So she packed up her things, my little brother belongongs and little sisters belongings. She told me to pack also and she said that we where leaving. I had no idea where we were going, but i soon realized that she had wanted to go to a shealter. I couldn't let that happen b/c i didn't want my little sister or brother go through what i went through when i was younger. I stood up to my father i told him to act like a man, and stop fooling around b/c not only will i get hurt but everyone in the family will too. I didn't really learn any lesson but just to stand up to what i believe was right for the family. I didn't want our family to drift away slowly, so i would do what any other daughter should have done. I made my father think twice about what he was doing and told him to stop before it could have gotten any worse then it was. That was my experience where i felt trapped.

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  13. Every single time I would go to a summer camp I would feel trapped. When I was growing up I was considered a real nerd. The only way I could fit in was to make people in my class laugh. I found out you can't be funny 24 hours a day. I hated it and my parents insisted on sending me every summer like they wanted to ruin it(Though I never told them I hated it). I was completely by myself and being a kid I was in no sort of control. I went where my parents wanted me to go no question. It was nothing but a trap.

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  14. When Marjane was a young girl she was into a lot of hip pop music. She loved the the music so much her parents bought her posters,pins, and clothes like the musicians she admired. This, however, was against the rules of being a young, Iranian woman. She did not care very much so she wore it in the street. There were two women who tried to take her to headquarters for the items she had on and for for improperly wearing her veil. She hadd to lie her way out of it. They had held her captive by the clothes she wore and the way she had to live. Even when she went to Austria to live a better life it was still a strange sort of imprisonment. She was making friends and one of her friends was sexually active. She would go to parties and would feel like there was nowhere to go. She mentions several times of living in solitude.

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  15. In my book titled persepolis Marjane was feeling trapped several times through the book. She didnt know which decision she should make. One time during the book she didnt know If she should wear the veil? She felt that it wasnt her to be forced to wear something she didnt want to. But at the same time she didnt want to disrespect her religion. SMarjane is a very religious young girl who doesnt want to go aganist the grain. So this made it a hard decison for her that trapped her. Another instance when she was feeling trapped was when she was writing love notes for her maid. Her maid had a boyfriend who lived acrossed the street and they used to write love notes back and forth. Marjane wrote the notes for her maid since she couldn't read or write. Eventually they got busted and Marjane father confronted her about the situation. Marjane knew that it wasn't going to work between the maid and the boy cause they were in two different social groups. Although she felt why does that even matter? If you like someone who isnt as forunate and wealthy as you why can't you date them? This made heer feel confused and trapped. I can relate to thistype of situation, I felt trapped before when I was in high school. I promised my girlfriend that I would attend her prom with her. Then months later we had broke up. Although she still wanted to go to prom with me. I really didnt want to go to that event with her anymore. I felt trapped cause I made a commitment to her earlier but now I had a whole diffrent feeling about the situation. So I didnt know wha to do? Keep a promise that I made or do what I felt like doing. In the end I did what I wanted to and not attend the prom with her. I felt great i didnt do what I didnt want to. Ilearned that do what your heart says and what you feel like doing. A part of being a adult is making your own decisions.

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  16. Marjane was very fond of american music but more specifically punk rock music in her country music like that was frowned upon and was i wouldn't say illegal but could get you into alot of trouble with the guardians which it did. when marjanes parents went to istandbul they smuggled a bunch of rock memorobilla for her got her a jean jacket posters and a button which she wore around which when she went to go buy a tape from the black market she got into trouble with the gaurdians and they hassled her calling her a whore and she felt trapped because she couldn't listen to music or wear the clothing that she wanted. And there was the time she wanted to be a prophet but couldn't let anyone know for fear of being made fun of or people discouraging her so she felt trapped and not able to express her love for her religion. When she did finally open up about it in school the teacher thought she was disturbed.

    I felt culturally trapped because i came from a lower middle class family and i sometimes missed out on opportunities that i wish i could of had what happened was there is a rich private school in faribault called shattuck st. marys and there were classes that i really wanted to take their but was not able because of our finacial background and so i was forced to stay at the public high school how i over came this obstacle was i just accepted who i was and became happy with where i was and looking back now i wouldn't change it or else i wouldn't have the friends i have today sure i didn't get the top notch education they got but i did get top notch friends i'll have for the rest of my life

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  17. Marjane is struggling with many changes in her life that are hard for her to wrap her brain around. She is extremely informed on what is going on, due to her parents, but at her age she perceives what she hears differently. Marjane discovers she has an uncle. A heroic uncle that has many tales and adventures that he has embarked on. She is ecstatic when he reveals his stories to her, so much that she must run and tell all of her friends about heroic uncle's stories. One day her uncle leaves. Her parents tell her that he had to leave in a hurry. The government was after him. He is eventually captured and sentenced to prison. Marjanes father find out and is told that he is allowed one guest, and he wants that guest to be Marjane. She visits her uncle one last time before he is executed the following morning. Marjane is devastated, abandoned, and lost. She even rejects god when he comes to visit her that nights. She screams at him to leave and that she never wants to see him again. Sometimes people do not know what to do when they are lost with no direction. Another instance was the day Marjanes father Ebi went to take photographs of the demonstrations taking place in the streets. It was late and her father had yet to arrive home. They all feared the worst. Marjane could not imagine her life without her father. In a situation like that all you can do is think. There is no remedy for a lost loved one. Marjane was lost in a sulking depression until finally her father burst through the door. It was the greatest relief.

    I feel trapped. I've felt trapped. I am trapped and I fear I always will be. About two years ago I lost the foundation in my life. My grandmother passed away. Everything I am came from that woman. She was the concrete between my bricks and with that gone I fell apart. My whole family fell apart and was completely scattered. At first I tried to accept the fact that she was gone. For months I got by, barely. It did not really hit me until later on. That was a year ago. Ever since I have been trying to rebuild myself, adding new morals but still keeping those key morals my grandmother built in me. I have learned how to better survive hardships. I learned that there is really no way to defeat them; you just have to withstand its time here until it goes away.

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  18. Marjane is feeling confinement because the war and revolution are taking away things that she and her family could do for fun, wear, listen to, and much more. At this point they hide things that should be freely put out and enjoyed. Pages 126-134 of Persepolis is a perfect example of how Marjane and her family hide what is meant to be enjoyed. Her parents went to turkey for vacation and Marjane wanted things like posters, sneakers, and a jean jacket but they had to hide the poster in the lining of her father’s coat. When they returned and Marjane received her gifts from turkey she went out and bought some tapes but the "guardian" women had stopped her because she was wearing her new sneakers that they thought were "punk" and her denim jacket with her Michael Jackson button and they were going to take her to the "committee" (The committee was like the Headquarters for the guardians)so Marjane had to beg and plea and cry and they finally released her.

    Now even though I cannot relate to what Marjane was going through. I can say that I have felt confinement back when I was 13-16 like most teenagers. I wanted to go out and have fun but my mother never let me go out when I wanted until I was 13 and I broke out of my shell whenever I did go out (and kind of lost it from there). So I believe that confinement is a difference from where you come from, and from how the people who are around you the most feel about you to let that chain lose because even in the revolution and war Marjane's mother still let her go out and get thing that were against the "law". While there was no war or revolution and my mother was very strict on a lot of things until I became 13.

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  19. 1. There are so many examples of the inmates feeling trapped. Every day they are trapped in their minds also in their cells. Writing in their journals give them a chance to free themselves of everything and take the time to express how they feel. Keeping everything bottled in will bring stress and make the mind wonder. Release will bring some peace of mind.

    2. I do not believe I have ever been trapped. I always make sure that I have control over situations so that I am not in a space to where I would be trapped. For example if my mother decides she wants to be angry at me for not cleaning my room I will leave the house before I let her come down or yell at me. Another example is if she decides she wants to punish me and tell me that I am not able to go anywhere I will go into my room to get away from her. My room to me is not a trap but simply a getaway from the hell on the outside of my room. Either I go to my room or I leave the house. I have no time to feel trapped.

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  20. Some of you have responded to the post correctly; others have not. There are two parts to the post; the first asks you to give specifics of when the characters in your book felt trapped. The second part asks about a time when you have felt trapped. As with any assignment you to need fully address the assignment, and proof your work before saving it. There are quite a few careless mistakes here.

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